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	<title>Comments on: WotC posts mysterious page starting with &#8216;4&#8242;</title>
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		<title>By: Dai Oni</title>
		<link>http://ogrecave.com/2007/08/16/wotc-posts-mysterious-page-the-first-letter-of-which-is-4/comment-page-1/#comment-3089</link>
		<dc:creator>Dai Oni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sounds less than â€œOpenâ€ for an Open Game License, doesnâ€™t it?&quot;

Meh. Not like every other OGL publishers are following WotC&#039;s footstep by making their own SRD freely available. The last time someone other than WotC put out their own free SRD, their business shut down (i.e., Guardians of Order). I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s what cause them to close up shop...

As for the D&amp;DInsider, not interested, since I don&#039;t have a plastic. I&#039;m just going to stick with playing pen-n-paper RPG the old-fashioned pre-internet way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sounds less than â€œOpenâ€ for an Open Game License, doesnâ€™t it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Meh. Not like every other OGL publishers are following WotC&#8217;s footstep by making their own SRD freely available. The last time someone other than WotC put out their own free SRD, their business shut down (i.e., Guardians of Order). I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s what cause them to close up shop&#8230;</p>
<p>As for the D&amp;DInsider, not interested, since I don&#8217;t have a plastic. I&#8217;m just going to stick with playing pen-n-paper RPG the old-fashioned pre-internet way.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Sugarbaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Sugarbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=24062&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this GR article&lt;/a&gt;, DnDInsider.com will be a free beta until roughly the time the 4th Ed &lt;i&gt;Player&#039;s Handbook&lt;/i&gt; ships, at which point it will cost $9.95 per month. The DnDInsider.com service will include both &lt;i&gt;Dragon&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Dungeon&lt;/i&gt; magazines, online tools for GMs such as mapping and adventure building assistants; character creators; a &quot;virtual miniature&quot; designer to accompany D&amp;D Anytime, a virtual game table; plus forums and other features.
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Allan &quot;Sven&quot; Sugarbaker
OgreCave.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=24062" rel="nofollow">this GR article</a>, DnDInsider.com will be a free beta until roughly the time the 4th Ed <i>Player&#8217;s Handbook</i> ships, at which point it will cost $9.95 per month. The DnDInsider.com service will include both <i>Dragon</i> and <i>Dungeon</i> magazines, online tools for GMs such as mapping and adventure building assistants; character creators; a &#8220;virtual miniature&#8221; designer to accompany D&amp;D Anytime, a virtual game table; plus forums and other features.<br />
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Allan &#8220;Sven&#8221; Sugarbaker<br />
OgreCave.com</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Sugarbaker</title>
		<link>http://ogrecave.com/2007/08/16/wotc-posts-mysterious-page-the-first-letter-of-which-is-4/comment-page-1/#comment-3050</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Sugarbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a rumor. Sounds less than &quot;Open&quot; for an Open Game License, doesn&#039;t it? At the very least, the details are flawed in this train of logic. But the idea has popped up as a rumor in a couple of places, so I mentioned it mainly to show the level of paranoia out there right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a rumor. Sounds less than &#8220;Open&#8221; for an Open Game License, doesn&#8217;t it? At the very least, the details are flawed in this train of logic. But the idea has popped up as a rumor in a couple of places, so I mentioned it mainly to show the level of paranoia out there right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Dai Oni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dai Oni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rumors around the web speculate a fee will be required from those wishing to make use of the 4th Ed OGL.&quot;

???

So, basically it means we have to pay for the 4e System Reference Documents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rumors around the web speculate a fee will be required from those wishing to make use of the 4th Ed OGL.&#8221;</p>
<p>???</p>
<p>So, basically it means we have to pay for the 4e System Reference Documents?</p>
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		<title>By: Del</title>
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		<dc:creator>Del</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flee before Gojiro, small game publishers ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flee before Gojiro, small game publishers &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Sugarbaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan Sugarbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 03:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7+ hours, and the WotC site&#039;s still non-functional - they must&#039;ve been SLAMMED by the traffic (and should&#039;ve expected such, but anyway...). I found a fan&#039;s photobucket page with some screenshots of the minimal content:

http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x38/MightyDraco/DnD%204e%20https/

From those pages, a sense of some 4th Ed changes can be gleaned, along with the fact that Rob Heinsoo, formerly in charge of the D&amp;D Miniatures Game, is now the Lead Designer of D&amp;D 4th Edition. Early guesses that &lt;i&gt;Dragon&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Dungeon&lt;/i&gt; would become electronic content are confirmed by the announcement of DnDInsider.com, which will have content available for subscribers (cost TBA).

Today&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/11123.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ICv2 story&lt;/a&gt; mentions WotC plans for two 4th Ed lead-in products this December, &lt;i&gt;Wizards Presents:  Classes and Races&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Wizards Presents:  Worlds and Monsters&lt;/i&gt;. In April, we&#039;ll get quickstart rules in &lt;i&gt;Keep of the Shadowfell&lt;/i&gt;.  ICv2 also claims that &quot;The Open Gaming License will continue as it has in the past, allowing the use of the rules in other publishers&#039; games.&quot; Rumors around the web speculate a fee will be required from those wishing to make use of the 4th Ed OGL.
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Allan &quot;Sven&quot; Sugarbaker
OgreCave.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7+ hours, and the WotC site&#8217;s still non-functional &#8211; they must&#8217;ve been SLAMMED by the traffic (and should&#8217;ve expected such, but anyway&#8230;). I found a fan&#8217;s photobucket page with some screenshots of the minimal content:</p>
<p><a href="http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x38/MightyDraco/DnD%204e%20https/" rel="nofollow">http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x38/MightyDraco/DnD%204e%20https/</a></p>
<p>From those pages, a sense of some 4th Ed changes can be gleaned, along with the fact that Rob Heinsoo, formerly in charge of the D&#038;D Miniatures Game, is now the Lead Designer of D&#038;D 4th Edition. Early guesses that <i>Dragon</i> and <i>Dungeon</i> would become electronic content are confirmed by the announcement of DnDInsider.com, which will have content available for subscribers (cost TBA).</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s <a href="http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/11123.html" rel="nofollow">ICv2 story</a> mentions WotC plans for two 4th Ed lead-in products this December, <i>Wizards Presents:  Classes and Races</i> and <i>Wizards Presents:  Worlds and Monsters</i>. In April, we&#8217;ll get quickstart rules in <i>Keep of the Shadowfell</i>.  ICv2 also claims that &#8220;The Open Gaming License will continue as it has in the past, allowing the use of the rules in other publishers&#8217; games.&#8221; Rumors around the web speculate a fee will be required from those wishing to make use of the 4th Ed OGL.<br />
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Allan &#8220;Sven&#8221; Sugarbaker<br />
OgreCave.com</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamG</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Sugarbaker said: &lt;i&gt;Woohoo! Hey, how do you keep an idiot in suspense?&lt;/i&gt;

Have them play Storyteller?  

*ducking and running*   ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Sugarbaker said: <i>Woohoo! Hey, how do you keep an idiot in suspense?</i></p>
<p>Have them play Storyteller?  </p>
<p>*ducking and running*   <img src='http://ogrecave.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sugarbaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sugarbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3, 2, 1, aaaaand... &quot;Service Unavailable&quot;!!! Woohoo! Hey, how do you keep an idiot in suspense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3, 2, 1, aaaaand&#8230; &#8220;Service Unavailable&#8221;!!! Woohoo! Hey, how do you keep an idiot in suspense?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sugarbaker</title>
		<link>http://ogrecave.com/2007/08/16/wotc-posts-mysterious-page-the-first-letter-of-which-is-4/comment-page-1/#comment-3044</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sugarbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, that&#039;s the ugliest d10 ever.

Hey, wait, it&#039;s the biggest one! OMG THEY&#039;RE SWITCHING TO STORYTELLER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, that&#8217;s the ugliest d10 ever.</p>
<p>Hey, wait, it&#8217;s the biggest one! OMG THEY&#8217;RE SWITCHING TO STORYTELLER</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sugarbaker</title>
		<link>http://ogrecave.com/2007/08/16/wotc-posts-mysterious-page-the-first-letter-of-which-is-4/comment-page-1/#comment-3043</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sugarbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah! That&#039;s exactly what they should do at 6:30: big ol&#039; picture of a truck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah! That&#8217;s exactly what they should do at 6:30: big ol&#8217; picture of a truck.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave T. Game</title>
		<link>http://ogrecave.com/2007/08/16/wotc-posts-mysterious-page-the-first-letter-of-which-is-4/comment-page-1/#comment-3042</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave T. Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, a reason to attend the D&amp;D Experience...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, a reason to attend the D&amp;D Experience&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WilliamG</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That countdown page - pretty funny. &quot;4DVENTURE&quot; ... isn&#039;t the Ford Venture a big ol&#039; truck? ;-)

Guess we&#039;ll see what else they have to say this evening. If anyone&#039;s there for the song and dance, tell us about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That countdown page &#8211; pretty funny. &#8220;4DVENTURE&#8221; &#8230; isn&#8217;t the Ford Venture a big ol&#8217; truck? <img src='http://ogrecave.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Guess we&#8217;ll see what else they have to say this evening. If anyone&#8217;s there for the song and dance, tell us about it.</p>
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