Comments on: D&D senior brand manager confirms: no D20 License for D&D 4 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/ Unplugged gaming news and views Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:48:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Dai Oni http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3316 Dai Oni Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:03:16 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3316 Granny is better off giving him gift money. Granny is better off giving him gift money.

]]> By: pduggie http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3315 pduggie Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:22:58 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3315 Aren't we all 'cognoscenti' now? I would hope people buying stuff could figure out what they can and can't use. Is grandma really going to buy junior a book for BRP when he likes D&D? Aren’t we all ‘cognoscenti’ now?

I would hope people buying stuff could figure out what they can and can’t use.

Is grandma really going to buy junior a book for BRP when he likes D&D?

]]> By: Chris Pramas http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3314 Chris Pramas Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:47:08 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3314 Scott Rouse on En World: > http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=211378&page=2&pp=30 Hard to say what this really means until WotC presents their final plans though. Scott Rouse on En World:

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http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=211378&page=2&pp=30

Hard to say what this really means until WotC presents their final plans though.

]]> By: Dai Oni http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3313 Dai Oni Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:20:47 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3313 Source: <a href="http://www.enworld.org/index.php?page=4e#ogl" rel="nofollow">Open Gaming License News on EN World</a> Source: Open Gaming License News on EN World

]]> By: misuba http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3311 misuba Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:11:34 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3311 Dai (and Aldo for that matter, now that it's been a little bit), do you have a source for those claims? Because claiming compatibility <i>by name</i> with D&D is exactly what the D20 STL was created to prevent unless certain conditions were met. Unless we've got sources, can we please not do more speculation? Dai (and Aldo for that matter, now that it’s been a little bit), do you have a source for those claims? Because claiming compatibility by name with D&D is exactly what the D20 STL was created to prevent unless certain conditions were met. Unless we’ve got sources, can we please not do more speculation?

]]> By: Dai Oni http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3310 Dai Oni Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:45:04 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3310 "Actually, I thought I read that third party publishers will be able to say 'compatible with 4th edition dungeons and dragons'" -- <b>Aldo Ghiozzi</b> The new OGL will combine both content use license of the existing OGL as well as trademark use license of the <i>d20</i>STL in one package. My concern is whether the trademark use is mandatory or optional. If it is mandatory, then you won't see future [standalone] game products that spawn from the SRD-based ruleset, like <i>Mutants & Masterminds</i> or <i>True20.</i> “Actually, I thought I read that third party publishers will be able to say ‘compatible with 4th edition dungeons and dragons’” — Aldo Ghiozzi

The new OGL will combine both content use license of the existing OGL as well as trademark use license of the d20STL in one package. My concern is whether the trademark use is mandatory or optional.

If it is mandatory, then you won’t see future [standalone] game products that spawn from the SRD-based ruleset, like Mutants & Masterminds or True20.

]]> By: Dai Oni http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3309 Dai Oni Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:40:41 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3309 "So yeah, I guess the only safe option for someone who doesn’t at least want their time wasted is to steer clear of that logo." --<b>Mike Sugarbaker</i> Perhaps but those who have the patience and savvy to understand the trademark use license can reap benefit from using the compatibility claim with trademarked "<i>Dungeons & Dragons.</i>" Especially for startup businesses like Green Ronin Publishing in the beginning. “So yeah, I guess the only safe option for someone who doesn’t at least want their time wasted is to steer clear of that logo.” –Mike Sugarbaker

Perhaps but those who have the patience and savvy to understand the trademark use license can reap benefit from using the compatibility claim with trademarked “Dungeons & Dragons.” Especially for startup businesses like Green Ronin Publishing in the beginning.

]]> By: Fred Hicks http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3302 Fred Hicks Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:44:13 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3302 Adamant Entertainment has a licensing agreement with me, as (I think) does Highmoon Productions and the Harping Monkey guys. Adamant Entertainment has a licensing agreement with me, as (I think) does Highmoon Productions and the Harping Monkey guys.

]]> By: Aldo Ghiozzi http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3301 Aldo Ghiozzi Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:37:39 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3301 Actually, I thought I read that third party publishers will be able to say "compatible with 4th edition dungeons and dragons"... Best, Aldo Actually, I thought I read that third party publishers will be able to say “compatible with 4th edition dungeons and dragons”…

Best,
Aldo

]]> By: misuba http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3300 misuba Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:10:55 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2007/11/14/dd-senior-brand-manager-confirms-no-d20-license-for-dd-4/#comment-3300 Well, FATE isn't currently as strong of a mark on its own, I guess. Who's using the SotC mark? Well, FATE isn’t currently as strong of a mark on its own, I guess. Who’s using the SotC mark?

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