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	<title>Comments on: New sources of enlightenment for spendthrifts: Push and Second Person essays online</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: misuba</title>
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		<dc:creator>misuba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't dug into the First Person stuff, but as a survey of a lot of interesting things going on, I thought Second Person was pretty valuable. As analysis it didn't hit the mark as often. &lt;a href="http://www.electronicbookreview.com/thread/firstperson/generic" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wallis' piece on storytelling games&lt;/a&gt; is pretty great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t dug into the First Person stuff, but as a survey of a lot of interesting things going on, I thought Second Person was pretty valuable. As analysis it didn&#8217;t hit the mark as often. <a href="http://www.electronicbookreview.com/thread/firstperson/generic" rel="nofollow">Wallis&#8217; piece on storytelling games</a> is pretty great.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually fairly disappointed with First and Second Person, honestly.  There were a few stand-out articles and it was good to hear from people from a diversity of different backgrounds, but, man, it seemed like such a wasted opportunity in so many ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually fairly disappointed with First and Second Person, honestly.  There were a few stand-out articles and it was good to hear from people from a diversity of different backgrounds, but, man, it seemed like such a wasted opportunity in so many ways.</p>
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		<title>By: misuba</title>
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		<dc:creator>misuba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not owning Push is &lt;i&gt;hella&lt;/i&gt; unwise.

There is a lot of great stuff at the First/Second Person website, but I've actually been reading some of the "ripostes" they've added and man, there is some garbage thinking going on in game studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not owning Push is <i>hella</i> unwise.</p>
<p>There is a lot of great stuff at the First/Second Person website, but I&#8217;ve actually been reading some of the &#8220;ripostes&#8221; they&#8217;ve added and man, there is some garbage thinking going on in game studies.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[pedant]Spendthrift means "someone who spends improvidently or unwisely," not someone who doesn't spend.[/pedant]

Thanks for the links! I'd heard of the Second Person book from the Baron Munchausen entry in Green Ronin's 100 Best Hobby Games book, but I had no idea there was so much good stuff available online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[pedant]Spendthrift means &#8220;someone who spends improvidently or unwisely,&#8221; not someone who doesn&#8217;t spend.[/pedant]</p>
<p>Thanks for the links! I&#8217;d heard of the Second Person book from the Baron Munchausen entry in Green Ronin&#8217;s 100 Best Hobby Games book, but I had no idea there was so much good stuff available online.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Walton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the recommendation, Mike.  I will struggle to live up to your billing as a "source of enlightenment."

The rest of Push 1 should be up soon, in both HTML and PDF format.  The first Push 2 articles should follow shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recommendation, Mike.  I will struggle to live up to your billing as a &#8220;source of enlightenment.&#8221;</p>
<p>The rest of Push 1 should be up soon, in both HTML and PDF format.  The first Push 2 articles should follow shortly.</p>
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