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	<title>Comments on: Seriously, what the hell is up with Gen Con LLC</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Sugarbaker</title>
		<link>http://ogrecave.com/2008/02/16/seriously-what-the-hell-is-up-with-gen-con-llc/#comment-3583</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sugarbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm thinking this isn't so much a way to go down as a wretched way to stay up. I don't think they're going away by any stretch.

As far as bankruptcy, it will likely help with paying their legal costs at least. If there are actual penalties awarded and those sink them, then, well, yeah.

Also, update: Dragon Hoard is an okay little casual clicky game. It doesn't remind me of anything I've played before, which is good. But games like this only take off if they're in the channel for games like this - that is, Yahoo Games or BigFish or PlayFirst or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking this isn&#8217;t so much a way to go down as a wretched way to stay up. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re going away by any stretch.</p>
<p>As far as bankruptcy, it will likely help with paying their legal costs at least. If there are actual penalties awarded and those sink them, then, well, yeah.</p>
<p>Also, update: Dragon Hoard is an okay little casual clicky game. It doesn&#8217;t remind me of anything I&#8217;ve played before, which is good. But games like this only take off if they&#8217;re in the channel for games like this - that is, Yahoo Games or BigFish or PlayFirst or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Roleplay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roleplay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what a wretched way to go down.  They won't die by any measure, but jeez.  What are they thinking with their management company?</description>
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		<title>By: Lee Valentine</title>
		<link>http://ogrecave.com/2008/02/16/seriously-what-the-hell-is-up-with-gen-con-llc/#comment-3580</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll be interested in seeing how much bankruptcy shields GenCon from Lucas.  Lucas has alleged fraudulent conversion (i.e., "you intentionally represented something that was mine as being yours and took the money for it unlawfully").  In many states bankruptcy provides no shielding against a successful charge of fraudulent conversion.

We'll see whether the court feels GenCon was incompetent / hit some bad luck, or whether they intentionally and fraudulently converted Lucas' property to make money and then filed bankruptcy in a lame attempt to escape.

Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be interested in seeing how much bankruptcy shields GenCon from Lucas.  Lucas has alleged fraudulent conversion (i.e., &#8220;you intentionally represented something that was mine as being yours and took the money for it unlawfully&#8221;).  In many states bankruptcy provides no shielding against a successful charge of fraudulent conversion.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see whether the court feels GenCon was incompetent / hit some bad luck, or whether they intentionally and fraudulently converted Lucas&#8217; property to make money and then filed bankruptcy in a lame attempt to escape.</p>
<p>Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Scott R. Krol</title>
		<link>http://ogrecave.com/2008/02/16/seriously-what-the-hell-is-up-with-gen-con-llc/#comment-3570</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott R. Krol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite line in the release?

"This action became necessary as a result of significant unforeseen expenses associated with attempts to expand its core business to encompass externally licensed events."

Hmm..."significant unforeseen expenses"...like perhaps having to defend against a guy with more money than God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite line in the release?</p>
<p>&#8220;This action became necessary as a result of significant unforeseen expenses associated with attempts to expand its core business to encompass externally licensed events.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;&#8221;significant unforeseen expenses&#8221;&#8230;like perhaps having to defend against a guy with more money than God?</p>
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		<title>By: Allan Sugarbaker</title>
		<link>http://ogrecave.com/2008/02/16/seriously-what-the-hell-is-up-with-gen-con-llc/#comment-3569</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Sugarbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments from Peter Adkison, CEO of Gen Con LLC, in the press release make it clear that this is a restructuring attempt, not a closing-up-shop bankrupcy. Peter has been assuring folks in the game industry that Gen Con isn't going anywhere, and that its main money-maker, Gen Con Indy, is doing fine. I'd say, if you want to show your support, get yourself to the show this year. Every little bit helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments from Peter Adkison, CEO of Gen Con LLC, in the press release make it clear that this is a restructuring attempt, not a closing-up-shop bankrupcy. Peter has been assuring folks in the game industry that Gen Con isn&#8217;t going anywhere, and that its main money-maker, Gen Con Indy, is doing fine. I&#8217;d say, if you want to show your support, get yourself to the show this year. Every little bit helps.</p>
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