Comments on: Paizo using Pathfinder RPG to stick with 3.5 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/ Unplugged gaming news and views Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:28:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Kyrinn S. Eis http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-4501 Kyrinn S. Eis Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:44:07 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-4501 I've purchased 4e PHB, and while I like a lot of what they have done, I'm fairly certain HASBRO/WotC will .5 us again, as well as the fact that 4e is even more of a minis-based game than an RPG, which doesn't thrill me at all. I've downloaded the 162pp. Pathfinder Alpha 3 release and already like it Oddles and Gobs more than 3.5. When they bring it out in hardback, I am very likely to purchase it. Their plan to continue supporting OGL/3.5 is a smart move, IMO, given the mass of works that were created for it, including my favourite setting: Privateer Press' Iron Kingdoms. -Kyrinn S. Eis I’ve purchased 4e PHB, and while I like a lot of what they have done, I’m fairly certain HASBRO/WotC will .5 us again, as well as the fact that 4e is even more of a minis-based game than an RPG, which doesn’t thrill me at all.

I’ve downloaded the 162pp. Pathfinder Alpha 3 release and already like it Oddles and Gobs more than 3.5. When they bring it out in hardback, I am very likely to purchase it.

Their plan to continue supporting OGL/3.5 is a smart move, IMO, given the mass of works that were created for it, including my favourite setting: Privateer Press’ Iron Kingdoms.

-Kyrinn S. Eis

]]> By: Cymond http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-4234 Cymond Thu, 29 May 2008 00:17:33 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-4234 The Pathfinder game is essentially a modified version of 3.5. Listen, Search, and Spot are now combined into one skill called Perception. They've reworked grappling. They've added goodies to sorcerers. Cantrips are now at-will. They have modified 3.5, which is why they need alpha and beta versions. I downloaded it, and frankly, I like what I see. I hope to convert to Pathfinder if my DM will agree to it, but he wants to wait until 4e is released so he can judge that on its merits (instead of hype and speculation). The Pathfinder game is essentially a modified version of 3.5. Listen, Search, and Spot are now combined into one skill called Perception. They’ve reworked grappling. They’ve added goodies to sorcerers. Cantrips are now at-will. They have modified 3.5, which is why they need alpha and beta versions. I downloaded it, and frankly, I like what I see. I hope to convert to Pathfinder if my DM will agree to it, but he wants to wait until 4e is released so he can judge that on its merits (instead of hype and speculation).

]]> By: Chris http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3977 Chris Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:54:29 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3977 Not terribly hard to give away something for free.... Not terribly hard to give away something for free….

]]> By: Dai Oni http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3970 Dai Oni Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:34:46 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3970 Make that 10,001 (i.e., me). ;) Make that 10,001 (i.e., me). ;)

]]> By: Allan Sugarbaker http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3944 Allan Sugarbaker Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:06:36 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3944 Seems like Paizo's off to a roaring start for the <i>Pathfinder RPG</i> - the free download, at least. Here's the latest press release: <b>Paizo press release follows:</b> <b>10,000 Gamers Download Pathfinder RPG in One Week</b> <i>Kicks off largest open playtest in RPG history.</i> March 26, 2008 (BELLEVUE, Wash.) – Paizo Publishing today revealed that more than 10,000 gamers have downloaded the Pathfinder RPG Alpha release 1 since its announcement one week ago. The free PDF is available now at paizo.com/pathfinderRPG. "The huge number of downloads has exceeded our expectations, as has the outpouring of support from gamers around the world,” said Paizo Publisher Erik Mona. "Our open playtest forums have exploded with thoughtful commentary on the Alpha release, and I look forward to a long and productive playtest effort going forward." Playtester feedback has already resulted in development changes to the initial Pathfinder RPG Alpha release 1. The changes have been integrated into to a new release 1.1 of the Alpha PDF, and are summarized in the first of a series of Development Notes downloads from Paizo Lead Designer Jason Bulmahn. The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game is a tabletop fantasy roleplaying game that will serve as the anchor for Paizo’s popular line of Pathfinder adventures, sourcebooks, and campaigns. Last week marked the beginning of a year-long open playtest of the new rules, which are based on the popular 3.5 rules available under the Open Game License. The Pathfinder RPG is designed with backward compatibility as one of its primary goals, so players will continue to enjoy their lifelong fantasy gaming hobby without invalidating their entire game library. Paizo intends to release multiple Pathfinder RPG Alpha downloads to flesh out the system with additional classes, spells, magic items, and additional refinements of the core 3.5 system between now and early summer. Playtester feedback on the Pathfinder RPG messageboards will guide the direction of the Pathfinder RPG Beta to be released at Gen Con this August. The Beta release will take all of the Alpha playtest feedback to create a 320+ page, soft-cover, full-color book, available in print for $24.99 on paizo.com or at your local game store and as a free downloadable PDF on paizo.com. The Beta will serve as the primary playtest document for the Pathfinder RPG until summer 2009 when the rules will be finalized and released as a hardcover rulebook. Additional information on the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game can be found at paizo.com/pathfinderRPG. Seems like Paizo’s off to a roaring start for the Pathfinder RPG - the free download, at least. Here’s the latest press release:

Paizo press release follows:

10,000 Gamers Download Pathfinder RPG in One Week
Kicks off largest open playtest in RPG history.

March 26, 2008 (BELLEVUE, Wash.) – Paizo Publishing today revealed that more than 10,000 gamers have downloaded the Pathfinder RPG Alpha release 1 since its announcement one week ago. The free PDF is available now at paizo.com/pathfinderRPG.

“The huge number of downloads has exceeded our expectations, as has the outpouring of support from gamers around the world,” said Paizo Publisher Erik Mona. “Our open playtest forums have exploded with thoughtful commentary on the Alpha release, and I look forward to a long and productive playtest effort going forward.”

Playtester feedback has already resulted in development changes to the initial Pathfinder RPG Alpha release 1. The changes have been integrated into to a new release 1.1 of the Alpha PDF, and are summarized in the first of a series of Development Notes downloads from Paizo Lead Designer Jason Bulmahn.

The Pathfinder Roleplaying Game is a tabletop fantasy roleplaying game that will serve as the anchor for Paizo’s popular line of Pathfinder adventures, sourcebooks, and campaigns. Last week marked the beginning of a year-long open playtest of the new rules, which are based on the popular 3.5 rules available under the Open Game License. The Pathfinder RPG is designed with backward compatibility as one of its primary goals, so players will continue to enjoy their lifelong fantasy gaming hobby without invalidating their entire game library.

Paizo intends to release multiple Pathfinder RPG Alpha downloads to flesh out the system with additional classes, spells, magic items, and additional refinements of the core 3.5 system between now and early summer. Playtester feedback on the Pathfinder RPG messageboards will guide the direction of the Pathfinder RPG Beta to be released at Gen Con this August. The Beta release will take all of the Alpha playtest feedback to create a 320+ page, soft-cover, full-color book, available in print for $24.99 on paizo.com or at your local game store and as a free downloadable PDF on paizo.com. The Beta will serve as the primary playtest document for the Pathfinder RPG until summer 2009 when the rules will be finalized and released as a hardcover rulebook.

Additional information on the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game can be found at paizo.com/pathfinderRPG.

]]> By: Dai Oni http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3842 Dai Oni Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:14:56 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3842 I think they want to refine and streamline the 3.5e ruleset. After all, there is so much clutter, despite the popularity. I think they want to refine and streamline the 3.5e ruleset. After all, there is so much clutter, despite the popularity.

]]> By: pookie http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3841 pookie Sat, 22 Mar 2008 10:24:53 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3841 Could the beta period be a means of testing the popularity of the project? Could the beta period be a means of testing the popularity of the project?

]]> By: Dai Oni http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3837 Dai Oni Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:05:53 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3837 FWIW, I'm glad the company themselves are adopting a wait-and-see approach while becoming a printinghouse (and distributor) for 4e game design studios like Necromancer Games. Besides, there is no need to flood the market too soon. FWIW, I’m glad the company themselves are adopting a wait-and-see approach while becoming a printinghouse (and distributor) for 4e game design studios like Necromancer Games. Besides, there is no need to flood the market too soon.

]]> By: Dai Oni http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3836 Dai Oni Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:02:29 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3836 <i>"I guess, but I do wish they’d had the stones to go with The World’s Most Popular Fantasy RPG."</i> --<b>misuba</b> Too many syllables. <i>"I think this is a mistake on Paizo’s part."</i> --<b>Wayne</b> Not to me. I plan to stick with 3e until 2010 or I grow tired of it, whichever comes later. “I guess, but I do wish they’d had the stones to go with The World’s Most Popular Fantasy RPG.” –misuba

Too many syllables.

“I think this is a mistake on Paizo’s part.” –Wayne

Not to me. I plan to stick with 3e until 2010 or I grow tired of it, whichever comes later.

]]> By: Rogers Cadenhead http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3835 Rogers Cadenhead Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:18:12 +0000 http://ogrecave.com/2008/03/18/paizo-using-pathfinder-rpg-to-stick-with-35/#comment-3835 <i>And if they’re using 3.5, what do they need a “beta” period for?</i> They're extending 3.5. Paizo's making a bid to become the successor to D&D for the players who don't adopt 4.0 or want to keep using OGL-licensed works. I think it's a good move. Hasbro's already botched the GSL "D&D developer's kit" plan. No third-party publishers will be able to release material anywhere close to the D&D 4 launch date now. And if they’re using 3.5, what do they need a “beta” period for?

They’re extending 3.5. Paizo’s making a bid to become the successor to D&D for the players who don’t adopt 4.0 or want to keep using OGL-licensed works. I think it’s a good move. Hasbro’s already botched the GSL “D&D developer’s kit” plan. No third-party publishers will be able to release material anywhere close to the D&D 4 launch date now.

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